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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:25:32 +1100 (EST)
From: James Spenceley
To: Scott Howard
Cc: Skeeve Stevens, aussie-isp, isp-australia
Message-Id: <20030102125331.F75015-100000@marvin.iroute.org>
In-Reply-To: <20021226092927.GA19774@milliways.doc.net.au>
Subject: Re: [Oz-ISP] Telstra litters the Internet
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On Thu, 26 Dec 2002, Scott Howard wrote:

> Why are you presuming it's Telstra that's "leaking" it?  Unless I'm
> mistaken AS65000 is used by at least one *IX in Australia - I'd guess that
> that it's far more likely that an ISP connected to such an *IX is leaking
> it into Telstra, and they are just forwarding it (as are Reach, Optus, etc
> etc as you stated).

So its only the job of the edge ISP, not their provider to filtering ?

[snip]

> anything which says they must do so), but I suspect the real problem here
> is with one of the smaller ISPs out there - quite possibly someone on
> this list!

No the "problem" lies with the larger ISP who certainly is on this list
;-)

My guess is that Reach for various political reasons has a very loose set
of filters on their BGP sessions to Telstra. While the view used by
Rob's report has a pretty wide angle and takes sessions (warts and all) from
many of Reach's peers (who typically don't filter) which gives us a net
result of seeing kruft which may or may not be globally visible from most
parts of the globe used.

(but most likely not visible)

>   Scott

--
James

BTW: For some reason those Telstra folk didn't remove/filter private-as
which is why we ended up on this thread.


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