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Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:43:49 +0800
From: Cons Ortheil To: Aussie-Isp@Aussie.Net Message-Id: <F90DC90A49E7D511A2630002B38BB68C856A8C@GLOBALTECH01> Subject: FW: [Oz-ISP] Online merchant facilities / CC processing |
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This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C556B5.9289C960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: Cons Ortheil Sent: Thursday, 12 May 2005 12:23 PM To: 'Nick Adams' Subject: RE: [Oz-ISP] Online merchant facilities / CC processing Cheers for the reply. And yes, Bigpond and friends will be a problem. The way we plan to overcome this is to recruit non-telco ISP's first, then engage in brand advertising to get people aware of the system. The idea is to get Bigpond's customers to whinge at them to make the service available to them. Its the only way I can see it happening. But I reckon there is a reasonable chance of it working. If all other ISP's offer the system, Bigpond will be forced to join as well. We will be recruiting small ISP's first (~15,000 clients), then mid sized (20,000 - 100,000) followed by large non telco ISP's like iiNet. The reason why I believe non-telco ISP's will be receptive of the system is because they can claim their customer base is worth more in consolidation or when pumping up their share price. -----Original Message----- From: Nick Adams [m a i l t o : n i c k @ n a r k o v . c o m Sent: Thursday, 12 May 2005 12:24 PM To: Cons Ortheil Subject: Re: [Oz-ISP] Online merchant facilities / CC processing The biggest question/problem I can see is how you will get a big conglomerate like Bigpond to join? They are very political and slow moving and unfortunately have a big chunk of users. How do you plan to overcome this problem? Cons Ortheil wrote: > Hi Nick, > > I am currently working on an internet payment system project that would > suit you. The system works by ISP's collecting money from thier users, > and making it available to be spent online via our system. We charge 3% > for goods and services delivered to the Client, and 17% for online > transactions where delivery is digital. It's a lot like paypal, only > more decentralised as people pay money to their ISP, and not a single > company based elsewhere in the world. The system allows micro payments, > as little as 1 cent. > > The system can only work if enough ISP's adopt the system, however I > believe there is a chance of this happening as it will provide ISP's > with a new revenue stream. Also, the same concept has worked with banks, > as Mastercard and Visa are both offered as a service by a bank. This > payment system is like Mastercard, only that ISP's offer it as a payment > option to their clients instead of banks. > > We are still in the development stage, so maybe that wont fit in with > the immediate part of your request. However, I would be very interested > to hear ideas on what I have described. We are currently testing ISP > billing system integrations, and we believe we will launch the system in > August this year. We are already making test transactions using the system. > > But yeah, I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on this, or > anyone elses for that matter. > > Cheers > > Cons Ortheil > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nick Adams [m a i l t o : n i c k @ n a r k o v . c o m > Sent: Thursday, 12 May 2005 7:57 AM > To: a u s s i e - i s p @ a u s s i e . n e t > Subject: [Oz-ISP] Online merchant facilities / CC processing > > > Hello, > > Does anyone know of any online merchant facilities with fee structures > more suited to smaller transactions (~$10)? > > Paypal want to charge ~6.5% on a $10 transaction. Any better ideas? I > need online facilities as my website needs to be updated immediately to > reflect payment. > > Cheers, > > Nick. > ---- > email "unsubscribe aussie-isp" to m a j o r d o m o @ a u s s i e . n e t to be removed. > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C556B5.9289C960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2653.12"> <TITLE>FW: [Oz-ISP] Online merchant facilities / CC processing</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <BR> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Cons Ortheil </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Thursday, 12 May 2005 12:23 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: 'Nick Adams'</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: [Oz-ISP] Online merchant facilities / = CC processing</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cheers for the reply. And yes, Bigpond and friends = will be a problem. The way we plan to overcome this is to recruit = non-telco ISP's first, then engage in brand advertising to get people = aware of the system. The idea is to get Bigpond's customers to whinge = at them to make the service available to them. Its the only way I can = see it happening. But I reckon there is a reasonable chance of it = working. If all other ISP's offer the system, Bigpond will be forced to = join as well. We will be recruiting small ISP's first (~15,000 = clients), then mid sized (20,000 - 100,000) followed by large non telco = ISP's like iiNet. The reason why I believe non-telco ISP's will be = receptive of the system is because they can claim their customer base = is worth more in consolidation or when pumping up their share = price.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Nick Adams [<A = H R E F = 3 D " m a i l t o : n i c k @ n a r k o v . c o m " > m a i l t o : n i c k @ n a r k o v . c o m < / A > ] < / F O N T <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Thursday, 12 May 2005 12:24 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Cons Ortheil</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: [Oz-ISP] Online merchant facilities / = CC processing</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The biggest question/problem I can see is how you = will get a big</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>conglomerate like Bigpond to join? They are very = political and slow</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>moving and unfortunately have a big chunk of users. = How do you plan to</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>overcome this problem?</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cons Ortheil wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Hi Nick,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> I am currently working on an internet payment = system project that would</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> suit you. The system works by ISP's collecting = money from thier users,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> and making it available to be spent online via = our system. We charge 3%</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> for goods and services delivered to the Client, = and 17% for online</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> transactions where delivery is digital. It's a = lot like paypal, only</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> more decentralised as people pay money to their = ISP, and not a single</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> company based elsewhere in the world. The = system allows micro payments,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> as little as 1 cent.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> The system can only work if enough ISP's adopt = the system, however I</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> believe there is a chance of this happening as = it will provide ISP's</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> with a new revenue stream. Also, the same = concept has worked with banks,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> as Mastercard and Visa are both offered as a = service by a bank. This</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> payment system is like Mastercard, only that = ISP's offer it as a payment</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> option to their clients instead of = banks.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> We are still in the development stage, so maybe = that wont fit in with</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> the immediate part of your request. However, I = would be very interested</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> to hear ideas on what I have described. We are = currently testing ISP</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> billing system integrations, and we believe we = will launch the system in</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> August this year. We are already making test = transactions using the system.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> But yeah, I would be very interested to hear = your thoughts on this, or</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> anyone elses for that matter.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Cheers</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Cons Ortheil</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> From: Nick Adams [<A = H R E F = 3 D " m a i l t o : n i c k @ n a r k o v . c o m " > m a i l t o : n i c k @ n a r k o v . c o m < / A > ] < / F O N T <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Sent: Thursday, 12 May 2005 7:57 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> To: a u s s i e - i s p @ a u s s i e . n e t < / F O N T <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Subject: [Oz-ISP] Online merchant facilities / = CC processing</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Hello,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Does anyone know of any online merchant = facilities with fee structures</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> more suited to smaller transactions = (~$10)?</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Paypal want to charge ~6.5% on a $10 = transaction. Any better ideas? I</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> need online facilities as my website needs to = be updated immediately to</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> reflect payment.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Cheers,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Nick.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> ----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> email "unsubscribe aussie-isp" to = m a j o r d o m o @ a u s s i e . n e t to be removed.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> </P> </BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C556B5.9289C960-- ---- email "unsubscribe aussie-isp" to m a j o r d o m o @ a u s s i e . n e t to be removed. |
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