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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:06:05 +1000
From: Craig Sanders
To: aussie-isp
Cc: aussie-isp
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Subject: Re: [Oz-ISP] SPF Records
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On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 01:07:07AM +1000, Sean Winn wrote:
> > SPF isn't an anti-spammer tool, it's an anti-forgery tool. I don't
> > care if spammers use their own throw-away domains for it. I do care
> > if spammers/viruses use my address as the sender address.
>
> Certainly is. But if it's not definitive, what's its value?

huh?  it IS definitive.  any domain owner can use it to provide
a definitive list of hosts allowed to send mail claiming to be from their
domain.

or do you have some superior definition of "definitive" that the rest of
the world needs to know?



> Only '-all' is definitive. And 4 major domains used for mail say they
> can't be definitive. So they don't seem to place a high value on SPF for
> themselves.

SPF is not useful for every domain. nor is it intended to be. it is
useful only for domains that CAN come up with a definitive list of
authorised hosts. this typically excludes ISPs(*) and mail service
providers and other domain owners with a widely distributed userbase,
however it does include most organisations (including banks and other
financial institutions, corporations, companies, businesses, government
departments, non-profit groups, etc etc etc).


(*) except for those like Edwin who are willing and able to a) educate
their users, b) cope with the flack from clueless users, and c) provide
decent service for their users.


craig

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